Don’t blindly believe PR in TALAMGATE!

Voters who support Pakatan Rakyat in Selangor should adopt an open mind to evaluate the questionable deals amounting to RM1bil which have been labelled as Talamgate, said Datuk Seri Mohd Zin Mohamed.

The state Barisan Nasional coordinator said they should question how a debt recovery exercise had ended up with the Pakatan Rakyat-led state government owing money to Talam Corporation Bhd.

“Even if they dislike Barisan Nasional, we hope that in their heart of hearts, they will ask critical questions on this issue which is not wrong to be called Talamgate as the financial and political consequences are huge.

“No one especially voters should be lied to every day by Pakatan leaders,” he told The Malaysian Times.

Zin said those who could not understand the issue could seek the views of accountants, auditors and valuers for a clearer and more neutral picture of this controversy, which the Mentri Besar had decided to avoid answering.

He said while the mentri besar and PKR leaders had chosen to remain silent, “it was ironic that DAP leaders are making a fool of themselves with statements that showed their ignorance.”

“Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim has only to answer whether the RM392mil owed to the three GLCs – Universiti Selangor, Permodalan Negeri Selangor and SAP Holdings Bhd – by Talam has been repaid, it’s as simple as that,” he said.

Zin also challenged Khalid to explain the rationale in buying the worthless pieces of land in areas which had low market value but the state had bought them at over-valued prices.

“The homes and land valued around those areas are excessively low but ratepayers in Selangor have ended up over-paying hundreds of millions of ringgit.” He said those who said these plots of land had great value should buy them, saying they should stop being political hypocrites.

Zin said the core of Talamgate was poor management and concealment of information from the state assembly, ratepayers, boards of the GLCs and minority shareholders. “That’s enough for the MACC and Securities Commission to come in,” he said.

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40 thoughts on “Don’t blindly believe PR in TALAMGATE!

  1. Zin also challenged Khalid to explain the rationale in buying the worthless pieces of land in areas which had low market value but the state had bought them at over-valued prices.

      • The way Selangor PR handle the issues showed they are not sincere. The bail out plan was favourable to Talam and the interest of the people was not taken care of.

    • They stupidly used Talam valuation for negotiation. Now found out that a lot of lands were overvalued. They are in deep shit now.

    • From an accountant point of view, this deal is lack of transparency in the determination of purchase considerations. The Selangor government might have overpaid millions ringgit to Talam and take over the bank borrowings which incur RM86 million interests every year.

  2. These PR people think they can fool the epeople easily. Simply talk something and hope the people to believe everything they say.

    • Unfortunately, not many people on the street can understand the finance. They believe on “slogan” and “promises”. 😦

      • PR no need to do anything. They just use the slogan tactics and accuse the election is not fair. Repeat the lies again and again.

      • Because of this scandal, I see the true nature of PR. They do not deliver what they promise and later give excuses to blame other people. No accountablity, No competency and No transparency.

  3. From financial view, this was definitely not a good deal to Selangor people as there is no demand for these worthless lands. I just do not know what Selangor government can build on these water and hill slope lands.

    • No white paper. No valuation report. Without all these, DAP still can lie in front of people that they had collected back the debt. They are big liar with no fear to God and people.

  4. 反对党最厉害就是逃避各种对他们不利的问题, 大选时利用他们的雇用兵在网上造势。

    看看下面这个不实的事情, 民联支持者企图为民联制造柔佛人民支持反对党的假象,不择手段诬蔑说柔佛人民一向政治冷感,但是却踊跃出席行动党8月9日在新山百合花园新国泰酒家的政治讲座。

    从google搜索发现事实并非如此,新上百合花园新国泰酒家并非该民联支持者所说地方偏僻,而且属于支持行动党的区,从搜索结果显示, 行动党之前在该地方举办了很多次的政治讲座,而一些出席者也不是当地居民。

    政治是肮脏的, 特别是当政客们以不符合事实的手段来欺骗人民, 这让人感到无比的悲愤。

    —– 该支持者的不实言论 ——-

    行动党主要干部于8月9日倾巢南下,胆敢在一向为国阵囊中之物的罪恶之城柔佛新山开讲。
    柔佛人民一向对政治冷漠,而且开讲地点偏僻,加上马华猛将陈书北议员从中设下种种障碍,
    估计出席人数应该只是小猫两三只。。。

    岂知在前往宴席的路上已经呈现出车水马龙,水泄不通的状况。

    到场一看更是不得了

    这里没有像出席纳吉演唱会般能有钱分,没有像国阵一样安排的交通工具能悠哉闲哉的到来,
    出席者还得自掏腰包买票(RM70-RM1,000),打油,忍受塞车之苦出席讲座会。

    可是,冷漠的柔佛新山人却一批批的涌来,500桌座无虚席,场外更是站满了人。。。

    小小的荒野讲座场竟然挤满了5000多人

    难得一见的场面,大家同着一条心坚决为边佳兰居民平反,

    这场面很壮观,很感动

    柔佛变天有望

    ————————————————–

    真正的事实, google搜索结果显示新山百合花园新国泰酒家出现行动党过去在该地方频频举办的造势活动,企图制造柔佛人支持行动党的假象。 行动党自去年就透过丘光耀到该地区举办讲座,行动党支持者怎么可以睁在眼睛说瞎话,说该地区偏僻,而且柔佛人政治冷感。

    http://www.google.com.my/search?um=1&hl=en&rlz=1W1GGLL_en&q=%E6%96%B0%E5%B1%B1%E7%99%BE%E5%90%88%E8%8A%B1%E5%9B%AD&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&biw=1280&bih=514&wrapid=tlif134473366968711&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw&ei=5QEnUJrvNpDMrQej-oDwBw#hl=en&gs_nf=1&pq=%E6%96%B0%E5%B1%B1%E7%99%BE%E5%90%88%E8%8A%B1%E5%9B%AD&cp=11&gs_id=t&xhr=t&q=%E6%96%B0%E5%B1%B1%E7%99%BE%E5%90%88%E8%8A%B1%E5%9B%AD%E6%96%B0%E5%9B%BD%E6%B3%B0%E9%85%92%E5%AE%B6&pf=p&rlz=1W1GGLL_en&sclient=psy-ab&oq=%E6%96%B0%E5%B1%B1%E7%99%BE%E5%90%88%E8%8A%B1%E5%9B%AD%E6%96%B0%E5%9B%BD%E6%B3%B0%E9%85%92%E5%AE%B6&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=a868b9913545f949&biw=1280&bih=514

    • 行动党真的很厉害造势,我看那个支持者的言论, 真的以为是事实来的。。以后不敢相信他们网上的消息,必须查证一下。。

      • 以后不要再叫我出席,虽然别人帮我给钱, 可是却说我们政治冷感。 很稀罕你的一餐咩, 最多还回钱给你。

      • 现在的城市人太忙, 很容易被误导, 尤其是很多相信网上的消息都是真的, 所以反对党放一些照片就让人以为他们很受欢迎。 特 以

    • The DAP supporter is a liar. my friends and I in Johor are concerned about malaysia politics, and many johor people are concerned about malaysia politics too, DAP stop lying that we are not concerned about malaysia politics.

      stop lying, DAP, we Johor people will not vote liars. You all have done nothing good to our Johor people.

    • DAP had come here so many times for their political talks and everytime we also went to show our concerns on politics. How can they lie that this place is remote and we are not concerned with politics.

      I will not go to hear them next time for all the lies.

      • DAP just spread the lies and do the publicity during election. They do not have to do anything before election because they believe lies and publicity can cover up their fruitless results.

    • 我认为还是不要盲目地相信或者不相信某方说的话。或者就像近来发生一些邪教信徒那样杀自己孩子的悲剧。

  5. Sometime I feel that the PR supporters are so loyal, they DON’T WANT to listen or understand the other side of the coin. EVEN IF THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN IS RIGHT AND TRUE….THE PR SUPPORTERS WILL NOT LISTEN NOR BELIEVE.

    THEY ARE SO BLINDED BY HATE AND ANGER…THEY WANT ALL MALAYSIAN TO FOLLOW THEM. HENCE, THEY DON’T WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY WRONG AND HAS BEEN LIED TO ALL THIS TIME.

    PLEASE READ MALAYSIA TODAY BY YOUR GREAT RPK ON THE BALA’S CASE.

    • Young generation is easy to be influenced when you told them that the society is unfair and a lot of corruption. They will then support DAP as their savior.

  6. 佳礼网友 on August 12, 2012 at 9:43 am said:Edit

    反对党最厉害就是逃避各种对他们不利的问题, 大选时利用他们的雇用兵在网上造势。

    看看下面这个不实的事情, 民联支持者企图为民联制造柔佛人民支持反对党的假象,不择手段诬蔑说柔佛人民一向政治冷感,但是却踊跃出席行动党8月9日在新山百合花园新国泰酒家的政治讲座。

    从google搜索发现事实并非如此,新上百合花园新国泰酒家并非该民联支持者所说地方偏僻,而且属于支持行动党的区,从搜索结果显示, 行动党之前在该地方举办了很多次的政治讲座,而一些出席者也不是当地居民。

    政治是肮脏的, 特别是当政客们以不符合事实的手段来欺骗人民, 这让人感到无比的悲愤。

    —– 该支持者的不实言论 ——-

    行动党主要干部于8月9日倾巢南下,胆敢在一向为国阵囊中之物的罪恶之城柔佛新山开讲。
    柔佛人民一向对政治冷漠,而且开讲地点偏僻,加上马华猛将陈书北议员从中设下种种障碍,
    估计出席人数应该只是小猫两三只。。。

    岂知在前往宴席的路上已经呈现出车水马龙,水泄不通的状况。

    到场一看更是不得了

    这里没有像出席纳吉演唱会般能有钱分,没有像国阵一样安排的交通工具能悠哉闲哉的到来,
    出席者还得自掏腰包买票(RM70-RM1,000),打油,忍受塞车之苦出席讲座会。

    可是,冷漠的柔佛新山人却一批批的涌来,500桌座无虚席,场外更是站满了人。。。

    小小的荒野讲座场竟然挤满了5000多人

    难得一见的场面,大家同着一条心坚决为边佳兰居民平反,

    这场面很壮观,很感动

    柔佛变天有望

    ————————————————–

    真正的事实, google搜索结果显示新山百合花园新国泰酒家出现行动党过去在该地方频频举办的造势活动,企图制造柔佛人支持行动党的假象。 行动党自去年就透过丘光耀到该地区举办讲座,行动党支持者怎么可以睁在眼睛说瞎话,说该地区偏僻,而且柔佛人政治冷感。

    http://www.google.com.my/search?um=1&hl=en&rlz=1W1GGLL_en&q=%E6%96%B0%E5%B1%B1%E7%99%BE%E5%90%88%E8%8A%B1%E5%9B%AD&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&biw=1280&bih=514&wrapid=tlif134473366968711&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw&ei=5QEnUJrvNpDMrQej-oDwBw#hl=en&gs_nf=1&pq=%E6%96%B0%E5%B1%B1%E7%99%BE%E5%90%88%E8%8A%B1%E5%9B%AD&cp=11&gs_id=t&xhr=t&q=%E6%96%B0%E5%B1%B1%E7%99%BE%E5%90%88%E8%8A%B1%E5%9B%AD%E6%96%B0%E5%9B%BD%E6%B3%B0%E9%85%92%E5%AE%B6&pf=p&rlz=1W1GGLL_en&sclient=psy-ab&oq=%E6%96%B0%E5%B1%B1%E7%99%BE%E5%90%88%E8%8A%B1%E5%9B%AD%E6%96%B0%E5%9B%BD%E6%B3%B0%E9%85%92%E5%AE%B6&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=a868b9913545f949&biw=1280&bih=514

  7. I will only support the party who provide me fair to treat every citizen, a well planning education background, improve standard of live style, public transport, safe and nice working environment. Do not same like BN, cause what they done before are too poor.

  8. 马华狗每天讲916谎言,民联没有诚信!

    还真难以理解916谎言严重性是到了那种严重的地步???国家有被怎样严重性影响???

  9. 又来DAP双重标准!

    DAP信徒每天讲CD!

    还真难以理解CD严重性是到了那种严重的地步???国家有被怎样严重性影响???

    • 不要自欺欺人。

      看看哪一个严重:
      1)一条CD佬触犯第377条款的“咬”罪
      2)另一条…却是联邦刑事法里…找不到的安安车大炮罪…

      • 行动党支持者不要自欺欺人。

        散布谣言,企图制造国家动荡不安, 欺骗最高元首和苏丹以及全国人民,这是叛国罪,死罪。

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